FoTR - Fog On The Barrow-Downs: Bk I, Chapter VIII

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Postby Iolanthe » Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:27 pm

It is Yum Yum's line! One of my favourites :D . I'm a three times over Pitti-Sing (I always loved that part) and have now graduated to Katisha (even better!). Mikado Rocks!

That hand is seriously creepy. For anyone that's got JRR Tolkien, Artist and Illustrator there are several nightmarish images of creeping hands. See Wickedness (no. 32) and Maddo (no. 78 ). It was a childhood dream of Tolkien's son Michael - a gloved hand without an arm that opened the curtains and crawled down them (brrrr). It could be the source of that image like the wave dream that Faramir has is Tolkien's own recurring dream. Tolkien was clearly fascinated by dreams, believed some of them were significant and had meaning and, as we know, plastered them all through LotR so the hand could be a version of Maddo.
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Postby Merry » Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:29 pm

I didn't know about Michael's dream, Iolanthe. I guess it occurs to me that this might be why Tolkien's 'fantasy' has such the air of reality--a lot of it comes from reality!
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Postby Kirill Leonov » Tue Sep 16, 2008 2:31 pm

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Postby Iolanthe » Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:54 pm

There are so many throughout the book - Frodo in particular has several obscure dreams that tell him of things that are happening elsewhere or are coming in the future. I think I read somewhere here that Gandalf, as Olorin, had charge of dreams and visions as one of his gifts?
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Postby Lindariel » Fri Sep 19, 2008 7:33 pm

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Postby Iolanthe » Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:56 pm

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Postby Merry » Sat Sep 20, 2008 8:52 pm

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Postby hope » Sun Sep 21, 2008 6:08 pm

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Postby Kirill Leonov » Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:55 am

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Postby Iolanthe » Tue Sep 23, 2008 6:57 pm

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