Misc. Tolkien

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Re: Misc. Tolkien

Postby Riv Res » Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:42 am

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Re: Misc. Tolkien

Postby Lindariel » Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:44 pm

Happy birthday to The Professor! I'm sure somewhere in Middle-earth, Bilbo and Frodo are throwing him a splendid party!

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Re: Misc. Tolkien

Postby Merry » Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:34 pm

Although we usually observe Tolkien's birthday in this forum, I saw on my calendar this morning that today is the anniversary of his death, which occurred in 1971. Rest in peace, Professor.
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Re: Misc. Tolkien

Postby Riv Res » Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:25 pm

What a loss that was, indeed! I can't remember where I saw the post and I believe it was you Merry (though I could be wrong) who mentioned that Tolkien's many bouts with ill health were tied to his deep concentration, and long hours devoted to his writing of his lengthy and detailed mythology and stories. I had not heard that before or thought about it much, but undoubtedly it was the case.
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Re: Misc. Tolkien

Postby Merry » Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:03 am

Well, he was in his early 70s when he died, several years after his wife died. That was probably pretty average life expectancy for the time, don't you think? So I'm not sure that his work practices shortened his life significantly. But I think it probably did cause a difficult quality of life at times. Essentially, he taught full time and also contributed to the war effort by spotting for bombers, etc., during the WW2 years when the bulk of LOTR was written, mostly at night after his family had gone to bed. That had to result in significant loss of sleep in addition to the other privations of wartime.

From reading the letters, it seems that his final days were rather happy. His last illness seemed to have taken him in a hurry.
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Re: Misc. Tolkien

Postby MICHKA » Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:38 pm

J'ai vu dernièrement en TV que certaines personnes n'ont besoin que de très peu d'heures de sommeil pour récupérer de leur fatigue, ce sont des veinardes et il s'agit souvent de grands et beaux esprits. Personnellement , 6 heures me suffisent mais je sais également rester longtemps éveillée quand quelque chose m'intéresse vraiment( ou pour faire la fête, mais je récupère moins vite maintenant :wink: )je crois que Tolkien était déjà âgé et plus fatigué sans doute avec cet immense travail qu'était l'écriture de LSDA, c'est d'autant plus méritoire d'avoir atteint cette perfection, réalisé ce chef d'oeuvre. Je me demande ce qu'il penserait du développement de son conte pour enfants: ''Bilbo, le hobbit'', ne suis pas sûre qu'il serait content
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Re: Misc. Tolkien

Postby Merry » Sun Sep 08, 2013 4:57 am

He was definitely a great-souled person and driven to complete his masterpiece. But he does say several times in the letters that he would not have been able to complete LOTR if it had not been for Christopher. I think he felt that it was sort of a lifeline to Christopher, who was in the RAF during WW2 and suffering, so the letters imply, from the lack of civilized conversation and companionship. Maybe that's why I'm always more sympathetic than most to Christopher's attempts to protect his father's legacy.

I, too, think he would be less than content with 'The Hobbit' movie. Like LOTR, though, parts of it are perfectly done. He would probably feel deeply divided!
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Re: Misc. Tolkien

Postby MICHKA » Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:56 am

J'amerais me procurer le livre de Paul H.Kocher , la fiction de JRRTolkien, maître de la Terre du Milieu, mais existe-t-'elle en édition française?
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Re: Misc. Tolkien

Postby Merry » Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:31 am

I don't know, Michka. I just searched around the Internet for a while and couldn't find it, although I did find an Italian translation for sale on the French Amazon. But I also found this:

http://lib.znate.ru/docs/index-103004.html?page=4

It's a long bibliography of Tolkien secondary sources, many of which are in French. That could be fun!
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Re: Misc. Tolkien

Postby Merry » Sat Aug 16, 2014 6:51 pm

TOR.n calls our attention to this BBC site dealing with the relationship between Tolkien's experience in WWI and his writings:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zgr9kqt

Nothing new here, really, but it features John Rhys-Davies and some interesting photos and film. Many people are commemorating the 100th anniversary of the start of WW1 this year, "the war to end all wars". :roll:
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